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Travis “could never quite catch up” to Jason, 36, she said of when her boys were younger. “He was always just second, just searching to be the best, and never quite getting there.”

However, she could always count on the Chiefs tight end to catch up to his big brother in the kitchen. “They would sit down and eat whole chickens,” she said of their appetites. Jason reminisced on family time they spent together before the fame, when they would eat dinner together and watch television.

“We had one of those coffee tables that the top would lift up and meet you at your face if you were eating,” the father of three said with a loud and boisterous laugh. Travis opens up in the interview about his relationship with Swift, from how they met to what he admires about the 12-time Grammy winner. Calling Swift both “hilarious” and “a genius,” he also revealed that he and the pop superstar share a similar outlook on family and work.

“Everybody knows I’m a family guy,” he said. “Her team is her family. Her family does a lot of stuff in terms of the tour, the marketing, being around, so I think she has a lot of those values as well, which is right up my alley.”

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